16:05:41	 From  FROSSO PIMENIDES   to   All panelists : morning from London Chris, Mohammed,Martha!
16:18:34	 From  Mohammed Makki : https://theconversation.com/5-reasons-why-zoom-meetings-are-so-exhausting-137404
16:28:18	 From  Donald Bates   to   All panelists : re: Barnstone presentation - while there may well be costs to the University for being off-campus, there have also been significant savings in electricity, running costs, printing and photo-copies, water, data services, etc.  Much of this is now being paid for by faculty, staff and students who are working from home and who fund their own electricity, heating, internet, printing, and often computer repairs or extra equipment.
16:35:22	 From  Deborah Ascher Barnstone   to   All panelists : Yes, I am well aware
16:43:39	 From  FROSSO PIMENIDES   to   All panelists : thanks to Libby and Deborah for razor sharp presentations!!! the positive outcomes are brilliantly highlighted by both. could i ask both of them to raise a debate about HOW CAN WE DEAL WITH THE NEGATIVES? TIME NEEDE FOR TEACHING,FACE TO FACE UNPLANNED ENCOUNTERS THAT CONSTITUTE THE SUCCESS OF OUR TEACHING/ LEARNING/ MEETING NEW STUFF. also Chris , what button do i press to appear on your screen? amazing talks LIBBY SND DEBORAH
16:45:50	 From  Chris Knapp   to   FROSSO PIMENIDES and all panelists : thanks Frosso - i believe your video as attendee is shut off in this webinar format
16:46:10	 From  Mohammed Makki   to   All panelists : hi panelists - please hold off on answering questions via the chat, and we will answer them in the q&a session
16:49:28	 From  FROSSO PIMENIDES   to   All panelists : Libby and Deborah, The  new global connectivity and FREEDOM individuals have now reveals a lot of the weaknesses of loads of institutions. What’s your attitude?
16:50:46	 From  Donald Bates   to   All panelists : There is a great deal of focus and response to ‘making things easier’, whether that is seen as efficiency or ease of engagement, and being less stressful or less demanding.  But I would suggest that the reason education is not the same as a consumer product where you “get what you ask for, what you pay for and delivers what is promised, I would contend that part of the role of education is NOT to make things easier, but to make things more challenging, more demanding of reflection, more demanding of participation and engagement and not “easier”.  So the issue at stake in this uncertain shift to online or back to on-campus is not which one is easier, but which one and what aspect of any of these conditions are most effective and consequential to a critically engaged knowledge exchange - which may actually be ‘difficult’ to experience (if it is truly challenging), but relevant to the  formation of knowledge and cognition.  Is our concern about a return to “easier”?
16:54:02	 From  FROSSO PIMENIDES   to   All panelists : great answers
16:54:19	 From  Mohammed Makki   to   All panelists : question to Neil: some are questioning whether we need a full return to face2face after the pandemic - that we can keep some elements online - does this fit into the lobbying by big tech, and what can we do to make sure that these decisions are actually beneficial and not driven by big tech?
16:58:23	 From  Libby Sandar   to   FROSSO PIMENIDES and all panelists : Thanks Frosso!
16:59:52	 From  FROSSO PIMENIDES   to   All panelists : sorry Mohammed, on my i pad, how do i see all participants?early morning silliness here!
17:00:43	 From  Mohammed Makki   to   FROSSO PIMENIDES and all panelists : Hi frosso - because its a webinar, you can only see the panelists
17:01:08	 From  FROSSO PIMENIDES   to   All panelists : great chats all
17:03:21	 From  FROSSO PIMENIDES   to   All panelists : Neil , this ou
17:03:32	 From  francesco mancini   to   All panelists : Thank you overmuch for the really interesting session. I have to leave now. All the best
17:04:18	 From  Melonie Bayl-Smith   to   All panelists : I found teaching Prof Prac from my office that I could spontaneously pull in documents, books and all sorts of things at hand into my lectures. But I agree with Neil that blended learning is a better way to go - teaching solely online has limitations and is exhausting!!!
17:04:37	 From  FROSSO PIMENIDES   to   All panelists : Chris , Neil, the financial ethics of big institutions have to be challenged! what is our take on this?
17:06:53	 From  Mohammed Makki   to   FROSSO PIMENIDES and all panelists : Q to libby - trauma experienced by educators while teaching and the associated mental health and 'costs' surely brings in some liability to the institution?
17:07:03	 From  FROSSO PIMENIDES   to   All panelists : A quick return would be catastrophic!!
17:10:12	 From  Libby Sandar : Thanks everyone
17:10:38	 From  Chitra Pillai   to   All panelists : Thanks